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Default Yamaha versus Korg - 24-11-2008, 07:50 PM

Obviously with the main manufacturer on this site is presently Yamaha, but why do people choose that over a Korg? Perhaps Korg owners could throw some light on the reasons they chose Korg. What are the strengths and weaknesses of each keyboard?
What about Roland, Technics, Ketron, Wersi or Casio?


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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 24-11-2008, 09:21 PM

Casio is a good bang for the buck. I bought a PX-310 about a year ago for gigging. 88 weighted keys, good piano sounds, and weighs less than 40lbs. Cost less than $500. Sure beats packing my 80lb. Yamaha to gigs. But I still prefer the acoustic piano sound of the Yamaha.


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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 24-11-2008, 11:33 PM

Hi Spike,

As you know, I'm a Korg owner and the main reason I went for it was because having come from a band background the Korgs sound more like a live band to me. Snappier drums, more punch in general, easy to edit just about anything evidently although I'm just not into that stuff (sad I suppose, really). Plus there's a variety of 4, 8, 12 and 16 bar loops, even different length loops in variations of the same style. And, with the i30 there are 8 sliders, each with its own mute/play button. For me, nothing beats them for on-the-fly balancing - no going into menus and pages, it's all real time, think Hammond drawbars. In fact, I believe Korg re-introduced sliders on the Pa800 and Pa1X, Pa2X because they got a lot of negative feedback when they dropped them for the Pa80 (the successor to the i30).

I also like the touch screen (some folks can't stand them, I know) for ease of navigating sounds, tempos and so on.

Yep, I know the i30 is an old bird now, and many things have improved since it was first introduced, but it still does what I want to do and I like to get my money's worth:-). I (read the girl in the family finance dept.) can't justify splashing the cash for the latest and greatest.

As for Yamaha, I've only ever laid hands on a psr740 and then only for an hour or so, so it's hardly fair for me to make any comment other than I didn't like the key feel and the OS seemed awkward, and that's probably because I'm used to the way Korg does things.

My first board was a Roland e38, which was pretty decent for its time.
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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 25-11-2008, 07:28 PM

Hi Willie Joe
Casio has always been considered a low end keyboard in the UK yet it's always had some pretty mean organ sounds, they must still be selling keyboards from the number that are advertised on ebay.
Now Howie that's interesting what you say about being a 'Korg' man as people tend to go with something they know after their forst purchase ie they tend to stick to the same make.
My first one was a Hammond Phoenix and I also had a Roland SH1000 mono synth. I changed the Hammond for a Technics U90 in 1982 and it was mega bucks then. I also played but did not own a Hammond B300 which I enhanced with a Roland JX3P and CR8000 drum machine. The Techie moved to Scotland with me in '93 and eventually I sold it and got a Yamaha PSR2000 (my first Yamaha experience except for a motorcycle) I complimented this with another Roland JX3P and a Korg N5ex. The PSR2000 went last year and I bought the Tyros 2, sold the JX3P. I now have a Motif XS6 to compliment the T2 and I still have the Korg and a Yamaha RM1X sequencer. The Korg synth has some great sounds and are all editable, the drums as you'd expect from a Korg are top notch.
Apparently there's a capital connection between Yamaha and Korg, maybe for 20 years now. They cooperated on research and development of some synthesizers - after Yamaha purchased Sequential Circuits Inc., together with their patents, they improved SCI's patented invention, Vector Synthesis (invented by John Bowen), and used it under the name Advanced Vector Synthesis in SY22/35 and TG33. In the same time legendary Korg WaveStation came to market, and guess....yes, it's based on Vector Synthesis and Wave Sequencing additionally.
Later Yamaha realized in cooperation with Stanford University revolutionary VL technology on the principle of Physical Modeling (Virtual Acoustic synthesis) and offered the VL1 synthesizer , and Korg had the Prophecy synthesizer, where one of the used algorithm is also for Physical Modeling. Korg also did a prototype of OASYS system, but it was not marketed at that time (1995). Later they offered Oasys PCI card, and few years ago new OASYS synthesizer.
There has of course been co-operation in style programming and Korg styles are acknowledged to be better than Yamaha especially in the drums section. Some of the new T3 styles are from Korg I believe. There is also a tie up with Wersi as the T3 styles apparently don't have to be converted to play on a Wersi but I don't know the details.
Technics are gone now, Roland still churn out arrangers and workstations which still have some good sounds but what would draw me to Korg away from Yamaha is the editable styles on their arrangers and the Karma technology based on the Oasys ie the Korg M3
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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 26-11-2008, 11:31 AM

Hi Spike
Now that's what i call a sensible and constructive information

many thanks for all that information .as you know i am a novice

and welcome your sort of posting .dare i ask you to post this on

the other channel as it seems to me as if common sense has gone

out of the window in regard to anything not yamaha


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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 26-11-2008, 11:38 AM

Hi Edd
Be my guest of you want to copy any part of that to the site. Glad the info is of some use.
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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 27-11-2008, 02:58 AM

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Hi Spike
Now that's what i call a sensible and constructive information

many thanks for all that information .as you know i am a novice

and welcome your sort of posting .dare i ask you to post this on

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out of the window in regard to anything not yamaha


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Can you let us in on what "the other channel" is please?
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Can you let us in on what "the other channel" is please?
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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 04-12-2008, 11:49 PM

Hi Spike.

I was always a Technics man myself,..I think the KN7000 was their last production keyboard, and I considered buying a used one when looking at the T1,...........glad I decided To go with Yamaha in the long run

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Default Re: Yamaha versus Korg - 11-12-2008, 03:30 PM

There are other keyboards to consider, take the Ketron Audya, look here YouTube - Ketron AUDYA - Robert Messier Demo na Musikmesse 2008 Part 2
Demo sound isn't good but you'll get the drift


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