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Default Rage Over A Lost Penny - 20-07-2008, 10:42 PM

Hi Friends,

Here's one I did a while back, and have revoiced on the T2 with some additional extra bits. It's a not-well-known piano solo by Beethoven. I've just used a couple of main passages, as the whole tune is quite long.

The main melody I've shared between strings, piano & grand harpsichord. I've also added extra parts for viola and piano in places. There's also some spiccato strings in there. I've also used pipe organ but found the sound disappointing on the T2, even after tweaking. Just couldn't get it sounding powerful. I could have gone for string bass, but decided to use 2 synth basses, panned left & right, with one track delayed slightly. The effect didn't really work on the conversion to mp3 unfortunately.

Hope you enjoy it and comments are always welcome, whether good or bad.

mp3 here: http://www.box.net/shared/static/tcl4lia8sc.mp3

Cheers

Paul

Midi file really only suitable for T2, unless you don't mind fiddling about revoicing.
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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 09:22 AM

Hi Paul, All I can say is wow, May I ask if you played it at that speed?, or did you 'cheat' and speed it up after, superb arrangement...Pam
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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 10:22 AM

Fantastic Paul - that's all I can say
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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 10:27 AM

Hi Pam,

Thanks for taking a listen, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

There was quite bit of 'fiddling' going on when I put this together, (approx 18 years ago). I try to play stuff at actual speed, as I've tried playing things in slower, then speeding up, but find the tune then takes on a mechanical, overly-quantised feel to it. Although I've always had nimble fingers, there's no way I could play that tune today though!

I would have started this one by putting down the left hand piano part, with the aid of the keyboard metronome. The main melody, now strings, I originally intended for a solo violin however, I find the T2 one very weak so revoiced for marcato. I needed a 'fast acting' string sound due to the little trills here and there. The harpsichord parts were originally played on piano, before getting revoiced. All the bass parts were added after the piano/harpsichord parts.

Even with tunes where I've used both hands to play the piano part, I will often take the track into Cubase, and split the left hand from the right, (which is very easy to do.) This comes in very handy at mixing time. I also do it with drum parts, handy for toning down the volume of a bass drum for instance.

The bit in the middle where it slows down (rall.), was another 'fiddle', as I needed to pick up the correct tempo again, so this was done purely in Cubase. The original piano solo doesn't slow down here, but I wanted this in for effect. As for the rest of the tune, I can't remember now, but I would probably have used a bit of gentle quantising, just to keep everything pulled in together.

I prefer to play at actual tempo, then go back and correct the errors, (and these days there are many!), as I believe it's much more natural sounding. The beauty of multi-tracking is it allows you to concentrate on the right hand, without having to worry about the left, thereby letting you play a piece you might struggle with, if having to use both hands at the same time. However, it follows that if you were putting something down like Moonlight Sonata or something, then this would have to be approached in the 'normal' way, i.e. with both hands and metronome turned off, and all extra instruments would need to follow the piano part.

Sorry for the long-winded reply but, for the benefit of anyone new to multi-tracking, just thought I'd try and explain how this was put together.

Best regards,

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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 10:32 AM

Cheers Spike,

Thanks for giving this a listen, and chuffed you enjoyed it.

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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 03:37 PM

Hi Paul.

Well,.....heres Me thinking I've done well coming up with a multi-tracked intro for a bloody Beach Boys song,...and then you come up with THIS !!! :whistle:

Detail...deatail...detail,.and boy did it show !

What a great example of just what can be done with preperation and dedication.

A masterclass for all budding multi-trackers

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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 07:00 PM

Wow Paul,

Everything that Spike and Gordon said and more! Very impressive work by both Beethoven and you!!!

As they say, ... you don't learn that overnight!
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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 10:47 PM

Hi Paul

Absolutely loved this !! I've always had a soft spot for classical music !

I have to say this is a masterpiece and i'm sure you play it just the way Ludwig intended .

Brilliant Paul .. Thanks for a highly pleasurable listen (i'm just on my 4th now) I'll be keeping this 1

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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 21-07-2008, 11:46 PM

Terrific work Paul, . . .really magnificent.
The non active members of this Forum can learn a lot from you about what a good musician with a vast talent can do with a keyboard these days.
A fabulous example of profesionalissm and talent.
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Default Re: Rage Over A Lost Penny - 23-07-2008, 10:54 AM

Hello Paul
Not really into classical stuff but I would be if it were all played like this, I have saved it for future enjoyment
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