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Default Your song - 24-09-2009, 05:31 PM

This is Elton John's your song, improvised on. I recorded the chords into Logic (DAW) first. I then fed these back to Tyros - I used the easy pop style.

I then recorded Tyros performance into Logic..Then I shut off ACMP, and played the style from Logic back into Tyros. I added sax, acoustic fills, and organ, into Logic one at a time.

I did the piano echos, same way. I fed the left hand chords back to Tyros from Logic, and set up 'detect chords' on Midi 2 in the MIDI Preset page in Tyros, I then selected 'Harmony echo' and recorded that into Logic..

I took electric guitar chords (chords 2), and I edited the velocities in Logic. and patched in a 'mega voice clean guitar' to make use of the different guitar samples..

I had to make several changes to Tyros MIDI SET-up, to accommodate the different procedures I used to get the proper results. At first there were a tremendous amount of problems, patches wrong mostly.

I wrote control initializations into each track on Logic, (select patch, volume, chorus, detune, pitch-bend setup) so basically the Tyros was acting as a sound module.

Then I record this 'live' from the Tyros into Logic. I put a further compressor, eq, and spread on the final mix-down from Logic..

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Default Re: Your song - 26-09-2009, 09:14 AM

Hi Mark
My first thoughts were that this was a lot of messing around to produce a song but having listened a few times to it it becomes apparent that it produced a work of art that would be hard to replicate by just a quick record and adding tracks.
The hard work paid off , well done.
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Default Re: Your song - 26-09-2009, 09:20 AM

Hi Mark, Didn't recognize the melody, It was freely improvised, well played and some nice voices, but what a compicated way to record a song, couldn't you have done it all using the onboard sequencer?...Pam
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Default Re: Your song - 26-09-2009, 04:26 PM

Thanx for your comments. I've never played an arranger keyboard before, the possibilities are overwhelming. I could have done it with the onboard sequencer. But to do the amount of editing would have taken a much longer time (using Tyros list editor).

I am really approaching the use of this instrument in a different manner from many of the performers here. I eventually will use Tyros as one of the tools in my studio.

Working in home studio, alone allows me the time for endless experimentation (good and bad). Also because of the some projects I do, every instrument must on a separate and individual track. The project might go to a different studio, and individual parts might be replaced. (change snare drum sound, take out hi-hats replace with shakers). Songs are often remixed, singer replaced etc.

Because of the sound quality of the Tyros (great). I'm tempted to change my procedure. After I did the editing. Tyros played the song in one pass (I recorded it like a live two-track). It would have been a great more work to extract, each instrument, bass, piano, kick, snare, hats, etc one at a time.
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Default Re: Your song - 27-09-2009, 11:28 PM

Great piece of music Mark! Beautifully played and arranged. A hell of a lot of work, but a perfect result. You made space for every instrument used, a skill I lack.

Fascinated to hear how you put this together. I've never managed to get Cubase or Sonar to pay back correctly, especially when using SA voices but it'll be down to pilot error on my part as usual!

Anyway, really enjoyed your take on Your Song.

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Default Re: Your song - 03-10-2009, 10:22 PM

Hi Mark.

Veeeery contemporary feel to this arrangement, ........loved the feel of it.

Some super improv along the way with that mean sax !!

Great job !!


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Default Re: Your song - 04-10-2009, 05:23 PM

Mark,
I think Spike is right....this is a work of art or should I say a very competent Band
I was paticularly impressed by the Sax player...he's really good but so are all the other heads if you get my meaning...excellant
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Default Re: Your song - 04-10-2009, 06:20 PM

Thanx for the compliment, LeoD.. I am so blown away by the sounds in the Tyros, especially the mega voices, my fingers just go. I'd love to see more Super articulation voices in the future. I will get the new Trombone voice in the near future.

In 'Your Song' - The sax was one pass, I played it three times, but this take was the best. I edited the midi notes in Logic a bit. pulled out a few clunker notes etc.

Sometimes I'll record a lot of takes. Then listen to them one by one, occassionally comping things together.. I really overplay it at first, but then thin it down.. Once you find a good riff or some nice phrasing. You can build around that.

A got a great piece of advice I got in my 30's from a musical mentor. I was already heavily involved in the recording process, working on a home 8 track. He told me to do 5 or 6 versions of a song.. With each version I was to keep only the best 10% and redo the rest.

Another piece of advise I got from an arranging book was 'every note should have a purpose'. That one's a little harder to digest. But it's true, in a great arrangement or song, every part has some purpose, it leads you up to the next part, or helps resolve something before it..

With the Tryos now, (I've had it 2 months now). I 'play' with the song for a couple of days.. Trying it in a lot of different styles/tempos/arrangements, so I can get a 'feel' for the song. I'll record them 'fast record' into Tyros.. After a day or two, I listen the various versions. Then decide what are the best aspects of each take.

Then go from there..
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