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Default Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 01-10-2009, 02:04 AM

This is a cover of Brother Can You Spare a Dime?


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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 01-10-2009, 09:22 AM

Hi Mark, Some good playing here, you definitely captured the mood of the times,very melancholy...Pam
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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 02-10-2009, 11:47 PM

Another impressive one from you here Mark.

Beautifully played and arranged, with some good voicing. Great sound quality for an mp3.

How did you put this together? Was it based around a style, or built from scratch?

However you did it, it was a good listen.

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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 03-10-2009, 12:33 AM

Hello Mark,

Pleased to meet you, my name is Dan. Such a wonderful production you've done here. Being a sax player, I'm not usually big on synthetic sax , but you've done an admirable job with all of the horns in this tune (the clarinet, too). The doubling parts remind me of Tom Scott. He would double the sax part with the guitar. It kind of got to be his signature sound for a while. I agree with Paul - do tell with some details if you could. Bravo!

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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 03-10-2009, 02:16 AM

BROTHER - thanx for the comments everyone..

I started with a style called RnBSoulBallad. I'm not sure where I got it, I have been scouring the net and downloaded quite a few styles. The RnB ballad had a kind of busy base - but it was a good starting point.

I played the style and recorded left hand and styles changes directly into Logic Pro. I then de-mixed the song into seperate midi channels.. Channel 13 (the pad part) is really a reflection of what your left hand plays. I cleaned that up (removing glitches, grace notes - so it was just chords). I then moved this to MIDI track 2 and send back to Tyros.

In the MIDI setup page - I directed Tyros to use that track to generate a style again. Since I recorded the previous performance, I can now sent that to Tyros as plain MIDI tracks and Tyros will act a sound module.

When you strip out all the MIDI channels from your first recording - you are left with a track of SysEx commands.. If you send these back to Tyros it will play the intros, main variations, endings etc. But if you have selected a different style - you got a lot more to play with..

I can't exactly remember now. But I think I took the e piano arpegiations from a different style. I just recorded that pass, and then mixed that with the RnB ballad parts.

Next I thinned out some of the chord parts. I took out a fair amount of bass notes (from logic piano roll notation). To give it the appearance of more variety.. I drew in two bass pitch falls on the breaks. I did the same for the guitar.

I have taken the time to figure out how to do orchestral type scores in Logic (kinda cumbersome) So I got 11 tracks for Brother. If you look at the score the first seperate one bar measure are control sequences that set up the Tyros voice.. This way I can duplicate it again at anytime regardless of the styles that are currently in the Tyros. I also use the score display mode to edit out notes. You just highlight and mute.. They disappear from score but are still there, just silent.. When I like the result I usually go into each track and erase all muted notes just for clarity. Over the last year I've gotten more adept and just editing from the Score display.. Like you find a nice 1 bar rhythm, I mute that and copy to another place in song with different chord.. I then move the current chord to match the rhythm from a previous place in the song..

I then overdubbed melody, I shut of OTS link cause it was confusing me too much, I manually put in the patch changes later. Because at some points I had 2 right hand voices, and one was mega articulation, it gave a nice kind of variety even though it was exactly the same performance driving both channels..

The marimba started as a pad, but I changed the sound and erased a good amount of it.. I also shifted some of the notes, other times I just quantized it to 1 measure. so it lost the arpegio effect..
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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 03-10-2009, 06:49 PM

H imark
A very nice piece of musical engineering if I may say so. I understand how you put it together and admire your patience and tenacity in doing it. I'm afraid the score sheet is just hieroglyphics to me . Manipulation of the score is a feature of Cubase too although being a non-reader I use the piano roll view to do the same.
Good to hear another masterpiece from you.
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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 03-10-2009, 10:04 PM

Hi Mark.

Liked this one a lot,....a modern take on an old song.

Clever use of the style, and a super arrangement.

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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 04-10-2009, 01:48 AM

I saved a MIDI file from Logic, put it on a USB stick, and played it as a song in the sequencer.. It sounds like the snare drum is a bit different (odd, don't know why, and it sounds like one of melody voices at end is too loud..

I figured I'd upload it, so people could play with it..
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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 04-10-2009, 01:51 AM

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I saved a MIDI file from Logic, put it on a USB stick, and played it as a song in the sequencer.. It sounds like the snare drum is a bit different (odd, don't know why, and it sounds like one of melody voices at end is too loud..

I figured I'd upload it, so people could play with it..
You'll of course have to play this MIDI file on a Tyros 3, to get the right voices. I'd have to 'substitute some of the mega articulation and articulation 2 voices of the Tyros into compatible GM voice voices.
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Default Re: Brother Can You Spare a Dime - 04-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Mark,
A beautiful rendition this....lovely voicing and beautiful playing...far beyond my reach so I can only admire the talent
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