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Default Mr. Blue - 21-10-2009, 08:42 PM

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mr blue 63.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

This is an instrumental I wrote. It might become a vocal later.. I used the Tyros and Logic Pro.

Here's a score - Mr Blue score.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

I made some notes on recording this song, and I put it in the Music Workshop section.
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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 22-10-2009, 10:10 AM

Hi Mark, That was a very nice little song with some good multi tracking, and to think you wrote the score as well, I never write anything down that's the clever bit, I just sit down and play whatever comes into my head...Pam
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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 22-10-2009, 12:12 PM

Hi Mark
Another cracker from you - lots going on in it yet not cluttered so I guess you got the mix dead right. Your notes make interesting reading. All the more admirable performance for being your own composition.
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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 22-10-2009, 02:37 PM

Hi Mark.

Not easy , this "Original " lark,..but you have managed to turn a simple chord progression into a very credible arrangement with your multi-tracking skills.

Lots going on in the background, which you may have to subdue a little when you add the vocals .

Very good composition I thought

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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 22-10-2009, 02:48 PM

Thank you yes, I still find I fill things up too much to fast. That dawned on me, the next day..

When I get a vocalist, I will definitely will thin it out.. It would be more efficient, if I could build the song, with the finished vocal in mind.. I guess that's why we have to keep practising right?

After listening to it from here a dozen times, it dawns on me, the melody needs some more development, it repeats same phrasing a bit too much.. The flute has too many overtones in it, and I could sparsen it out some more. The organ likewise, stays too busy for too long, it should probably get more subdued in some sections, and play some 1/2 note chords just consisting of ascending/descending thirds..

The problem is a song is like a house of cards, when you go in after the fact, and change one thing, you shift the relationship of all the other parts. Sometimes you improve it, other times, you make it worse.. You change one part, then you have to keep changing other parts. Next thing you know, you're over the song.

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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 08-11-2009, 10:05 PM

Another enjoyable one from you Mark. Lots going on which all adds to the interest.

I felt the tune needed a lift somewhere, maybe a radical key change, (not + semitone), or maybe the flute needs to switch to something more dynamic, guitar maybe? Not really sure, but still enjoyed it.

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You change one part, then you have to keep changing other parts. Next thing you know, you're over the song.
A familiar feeling here also. I have so many tunes/ideas sitting on the hard drive that I just got fed up with hearing them.

Look forward to the next one.

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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 08-11-2009, 10:19 PM

Yes - you're right. The main melody riff is repeated too many times. I could make do with it changing a bit in the 2nd repetition, and more on the 3rd also. I think I could strip down the instrumentation a bit and let it build up more as song progresses. It's really too much of that 8 bar phrase. A key change could be good too. Although pleasant listening, the piece is too linear, and predictable

When i get to a place like this (stuck). i set it aside for while, and then go back to it. Also getting feedback from people is always appreciated. Sometimes you get too close to a song to be objective about it or figure out what to do next, other than endless twiddling. I will get back to it in a week or so, and upload it again, when I've made some headway with it..

Thanx for your input.
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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 23-01-2012, 11:05 PM

I'm new to the site. Everything I've heard on your posts inspires me to keep working at my arrangements. Thanks.
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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 24-01-2012, 07:53 AM

Thank you Goodspirit. Good musicianship is a lifetime endeavor. I listen to something I did a year ago, sometimes smile and sometimes cringe. But the beauty of music is being in the present. I'm mostly self taught, going on 50 years now. I did take some arranging classes at Berklee on Line (great courses but pretty expensive..

I recently discovered

Principles of Orchestration On-line

This place is great and it's free, there are actually a lot of free places to study and practice different aspects of music.
I started the first 3 jazz arranging lessons. This is a tremendous sight, it explains things, and has flash movies so you can see and hear the principles being explained. After that I plan to tackily the Rimsky-Korskov course. He truly is the father of arranging.

But the point of music is to have fun.. I spent many years playing music, having fun, and not knowing what I was doing. We each approach music in a different way. But it's great to look and listen around and observe how others do it.

I had a hard time co-ordinating playing proper notes, hitting all the buttons in right order etc. I'd get the notes right, but couldn't co-ordinate all the fills, VARS, OTS, continually adjust the whole front panel as i play. i seem to have trouble with long human sequences of movement. I tried taking some fancy skating lessons, although I knew basic maneuvers quite well, I couldn't keep track of the combinations. You were expected to do 20-40 different movements in a specific order.

So I approach the T4 more as a compositional aid. Being very proficient in Logic Pro, I studied and pondered all the switches in T4 MIDI set-up. They did keep in mind someone might want to access this instrument other than being a one man band..

We each have our specific strengths, become aware of them, fine-tune them and try to learn other essentials too.

Don't be afraid to ask questions.. We all started at the beginning sometime.

Good luck.
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Default Re: Mr. Blue - 05-02-2012, 07:36 PM

Thanks for your encouragement. I'm fascinated by the link to Principles of Orchestration. I found an arranging course by Russ Garcia in the local library, but I haven't found time to go through it. Listening to your work on this site makes me want to stretch beyond simply picking styles and playing melodies. Thanks, again.

Rob (Goodspirit)

p.s. My member page now has a link to my version of Norwegian Wood.
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