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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 25-09-2009, 01:34 PM

Here's a different version of I'd count the stars with a voice on it.

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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 30-09-2009, 04:22 PM

Mark,
I never heard this song before, but it was very enjoyable....the vocals were great and the backing was very appropriate.
`i'm left wondering how exactly this was done, as I could never achieve this level of complication in the arrangement
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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 30-09-2009, 09:03 PM

This is an original song, I wrote. I had uploaded an instrumental version in a different section on this site which was the Tyros playing. I just wanted to show what it sounded like with a vocal, cause the instrumental is quite different. I didn't mean to mislead anyone, but I did this version before I got the Tyros. The rather odd harp and bell parts were done using the Korg "Karma" software (their equivalent to Motif Arpeggios), The Karma software can produce some truly beautiful effects, but it is rather hard to get a handle on how to control it to do exactly what you want.

For many years, I have been using Band In a Box to start a song. I try out different chord progressions (substituting chords etc). Then I would save several different versions of the same song (ie a jazz, a hip-hop, rock). I would then take the guitar part from the jazz version, the bass from a rock version, the piano from a 'show-song' version.

I will compile this new version, then use that as a starting point.. I might use those tracks as guide tracks to record new tracks by hand. I will often record several versions of a song, before I decide which one I like best. As I overdub a new part, I might go back and redo previous tracks to make the new part 'fit' better. (this is what bands do in real-time). For instance in this song, the singer surprised me by going into those high falsetto notes. So I rebuilt the song there to dramatize him. (dropped drums out, put in the fast ascending trumpet riff, and string notes then pause. I've seen him sing it live and people flip.

This is quite a lengthy process, but I love to do it. An external sequencer program is necessary to work in this manner. Recording into a DAW, I may sometimes do several takes of an instrument, then comp together a performance from the various ideas I tried..

I recently bought a Tyros to speed this process up. It is much more immediate than the process I described above. It's style generators are much better than Band-in-a-box. It also has great sounds. Previously I had been using a large assortment of virtual instruments in Logic Pro.

I'm going to attempt to use the Tyros in the above manner. I've done a couple of things so far, using Logic and Tyros. When I'm done building a performance in Logic, I feed the midi tracks back to Tyro's and record as a 'live two track'.

I'm 60 now, mostly self-taught, (learned from 30's - 60's Fakebooks) but have been playing for a long time. Played in bands from age 15 - 30, After that, just studios. I did take some online music courses at Berklee Music. They are expensive but very good.

The last two years now, I've taken the effort to create orchestral type scores of the music (6 - 16 staffs of tracks). Seeing a visual representation of all the music at once, is a invaluable tool, cause you can immediately SEE where the music is bottle-necking, or too sparse - or whatever other weaknesses it has.
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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 09-10-2009, 10:29 AM

Hi Mark

Really enjoyed that. Good song, very nicely recorded and arranged. The vocalist has a good powerful voice. Were the vocal tracks home recorded? The vocal sits beautifully within the mix, which is not easy to achieve.

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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 09-10-2009, 07:06 PM

Thanx.. Yes I recorded the vocals with a Rhodes NT2, had for several years now. I use a Presonus module called "Eureka" module, pre-amp, compressor, parametric eq) with it. I use Logic Pro on a MacPro Intel. I also use a limiter on vocals in Logic after the fact.

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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 09-10-2009, 07:31 PM

Hi Mark

I don't often venture into the vocal forum but having heard your other tracks I couldn't resist.

Well, it was worth the visit. This is superb stuff and I admire your tenacity in making sure everything is just right. I know only too well the amount of work that's gone into this production. It's been a long time since I had the time & patience to really polish a production, the way you have with this. I love to hear lots going on in the background of a song, and this had everything. All the little tasty phrases had lots of room to breathe, and nothing clashed. Loved the ascending arppegiator bits running up to the high vocal.

You did a great mix on the vocal, (which was excellent by the way), sounded just like a studio recording.

I hope you're proud of this one Mark, you should be!

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Default Re: I'd Count The Stars - 10-10-2009, 02:32 PM

Hi Mark.

Well I won't reiterate all of the kudos this song deserves' so let me say "Wow!", and thanks for your explanation of all of your hard work.

Thanks for the music,
Dan


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