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Default Registration Bank PSR 750 - 17-05-2013, 07:23 AM

I have successfully put 8 registrations into my memory Bank, and am able to access any one of them at the touch of a button.So far , so good! I am very pleased with both myself, and my brand new PSR 750.
But.I would now like to put another 8 different registrations into the next memory bank, but when I try to do so, my new 8 registrations always slip into the first memory bank I created. Even worse, they kick out the ones I had in there, and take up residence in there. Talk about unwelcome tenants!
I have read and re read the hand book.Obviously I am doing something wrong.
I am assuming that the PSR 750 will hold 32 memories , That is 4 banks, each containing 8 registrations= 32 memories in total.
Hoping someone will come to my aid, and save my sanity, my eyes which have been poring over manual and my morale.My spirits rise and fall with my successes and failures with computers and yamaha PSR Keyboards, but I wouldn't have it any other way. They provide a wonderful daily work out for the brain.
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 17-05-2013, 10:23 AM

Hi Trevor,

First of all the contents of the eight individual registration buttons are all saved together in one file which Yamaha calls a Registration Bank.

Contrary to what you might think, you can have as many different Banks saved as your memory storage location will hold.

On your 750 You can save them to a plugged in USB stick, or I think to the internal USER memory. Registration Banks vary in size depending on the information stored in each individual registration, but are only small files typically being less than 10 KB for a whole bank. Therefore you could store over 100,000 banks in 1 GB!

I suspect that you have seen the graphic on page 80 of the User Manual which is a bit confusing since it only shows banks 01 to 04, but if you look in the Specification list on page 100 of the manual under 'Functions' > 'Registration Memory', you will see that you can have as many as you like.

I assume that your problem with overwriting an existing saved bank when you try to save a new one, is because you are not giving the new bank a different name. If you try to save a bank with the same name as an existing one, you should be getting a warning, and being asked to confirm that you really want to overwrite the existing bank. If you say 'OK' to this then the new settings will overwrite what was already in the bank of that name. So you need to give each new bank a unique name. You could simply add a number to the end of the existing name (which if you have never changed it will be 'New Bank') so you end up with NewBank001, NewBank002 etc., but it is better to call each bank some thing more meaningful to you.

To save a bank and give it a different name, see page 79 of the manual which will then direct you to page 26 for instructions on saving all types of file including Registration Banks.

Registrations are really powerful and once you get the hang of them, simple to use. It is well worth learning how to use them.

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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 17-05-2013, 11:50 AM

Thanks, Ian.
I have printed up your reply to my post which I put up less than three hours ago. I am now off to the spare room to figure it all out.I will let you know how I get on. I have high hopes that your notes will help me enormously.
Incidentally, I think you must reside in a similar time zone to me, as your post lists the time as 7.24 PM Friday 17 May 2013 I didn't expect a reply so soon, as the rest of the world is usually asleep when I am putting my problems on the Lone arrangers Forum. Many, many thanks, Trevor
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 17-05-2013, 01:23 PM

No good. I go to bed in total despair. I've tried every thing,but it always gets over ridden. I haven't been able buy an appropriate memory stick [USB} yet,but I have one coming in from overseas , so maybe when that arrives , I will be able to store more registrations. I suppose I'm a bit greedy, wanting more than eight, but then I can't resist a challenge.
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 17-05-2013, 02:59 PM

Hi Trevor,

If you haven't got a USB stick then any registration banks that you have managed to save must be in the USER memory.

Please check to see what you have actually managed to save by pressing the 'REGIST BANK' [+] and [-] buttons at the same time.

This will open the registration bank file selection display which should say 'REGISTRATION BANK' at the top. Since you haven't got a USB stick connected, you will only see the USER tab.

Any banks that you have managed to save will be listed here. Each page of the display can list ten items, if there are more than ten items to display, then the list will continue on more pages. This display should not list any files other than registration banks, although if you have created any folders in the USER area, they will be listed first even if they don't contain any registrations.

If you can't see any registration banks listed, then you have not managed to successfully save any.

Please let us know what banks you find.

You need to be aware that if a registration button is lit up, there is already something memorised in it, and memorising a different panel setup (style, voices etc.) to the same button will overwrite anything that was already in it.

Memorising a panel setup to a button does not save the registration bank. You have to save the bank yourself with a unique name as described in my first reply if you want to keep that bank for future use.

The other possibility is that you are not completing the sequence that memorises the panel settings to a button correctly.

First you press the 'MEMORY' button which brings up the list of groups that will be saved in the registration. Nothing is saved at this stage, it is only when you go on to press one of the eight buttons, while the group list is still on the screen, that the setup is memorised to the button. It should flash a couple of times if data is being saved to it.

Even if you don't save the registration bank, the settings stored in the buttons when you turn the power off, are remembered and loaded again when you next switch the keyboard on. However if you want to be able to select from more than those eight registrations, you must save them in USER (or USB when you get it) as uniquely named banks.

It is one of those things that once you work out how to do it correctly the first time, it will become second nature.

By the way, I am in Scotland and so we are about 12 hours different in time. When you are going to bed, I am probably getting up.

Regards

Ian
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 18-05-2013, 04:32 AM

"Ah but it's grand to be waken at day
to find yourself answered
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Of Kind people at The Lonearrangers.
I'm off now to the spare room to have another go
Will let you know.
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 18-05-2013, 01:01 PM

Still no go. I've spent a few hours to-day without success.I have no trouble setting up the first bank, and saving it. When I have turned the power off for an hour or so, and come back into the room, all eight lights are lit up when I turn the power back on.And each light contains the information I put in there earlier in the day.
For example- on Number 1 green light I have Slow Foxtrot.
On No. 2 Green light I have put Quickstep.
No.3 Midnight Swing No.4 I have put Classic Big Band and so on until all eight green lights are occupied with registrations that I like.
So far so good. The PSR750 has lots of lovely sounds.
The problem starts when I try and set up a new Bank. I make sure I am on "User". I think up a new name for the new bank. Put some arrangements I like into the new bank, and for some crazy reason they override the arrangements in the previous bank. I must still be doing something wrong.Trevor
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 18-05-2013, 03:25 PM

Hi Trevor,

I hate to say this, but the problem is almost certainly, as you say yourself, that you are doing something wrong, but you will get there in the end.

If you don't mind, let's start from the beginning to try and give you an idea of what you need to do. Please try the following sequence. I hope that you don't think that I am talking down to you because that is not the intention.

1) To make sure that you have a safe copy of the current data in the eight registration buttons, press the 'REGIST BANK' [+] and [-] buttons simultaneously to call up the Registration Bank Selection Display. Because you haven't got your USB stick yet, the screen will open at the 'USER' tab.

2) Now press the lower 6 button under the 'SAVE' icon at the bottom of the display. The naming window should open at the bottom of the display. Clear the current name by pressing the lower 7 button under 'DELETE'. This button deletes characters in the name. It does not delete the registration bank! Each press will delete one character or if you hold it down for a couple of seconds it will clear all the characters. Enter a new name for the bank - let's call it 'trevor1' unless you already have one called that!

3) When you have entered the name press the upper 8 button under 'OK'. This is the point where the registration bank is actually saved with the name that you have just given it. There will be a message appear on the screen but it will probably be too quick for you to read. Don't worry, it is just telling you not to switch the keyboard off while it is saving a file.

4) Now switch the keyboard off, then press and hold the highest B key (B5, 1 key down from the top key) and switch back on. This will clear the registration buttons so that you start with an empty bank. Hopefully this will make things clearer for you. Once the keyboard has finished starting up, you should see that the lights on the eight registration buttons are off. This confirms that there is nothing memorised in them. The keyboard operating system will assign the same name to an empty banks which on my Tyros4 is 'New Bank', I suspect that it is the same on your 750.

5) Memorise some panel setups into the first four buttons, anything will do just for this exercise but make them obviously different to each other. Set up the style, voices, etc. for the first button, then press 'MEMORY'. The list of groups that are ticked (checked) in the screen that appears should be OK for now, so as long as at least 'Style' and 'Voice' are ticked, leave them alone. Now while this list is still on screen, press the registration button that you want to store the setup in. As you memorise data into a button it should flash a couple of times then stay red because it now contains data, and is the currently selected button. When you do the next one, it will do the same and the previous one will turn green.

6) Repeat instruction 5) until you have four buttons with data.

7) Now save the registration bank by pressing the 'REGIST BANK' [+] and [-] buttons simultaneously to call up the Registration Bank Selection Display, then follow instruction 2) and 3) but this time name the bank 'trevor2'. When the save is complete you should see both 'trevor1' and 'trevor2' in the displayed registration list. If you have managed to save any others in your earlier attempts, they should be listed too.

8) At this stage the bank 'trevor2' with four buttons containing data will still be loaded. While the list is still on screen, select 'trevor1' by pressing the button next to it. It will highlight and the bank will be loaded into the keyboard buttons. You should be able to see that now all eight registration buttons are lit green (assuming that there were eight buttons with data when you first saved this bank at the beginning of this exercise). If you press EXIT to get back to the 'MAIN' display, then press one of the registration buttons, it will turn red and load the setup that you stored in it, and you will see the style etc. change on the display.

9) Now load the 'trevor2' bank by pressing the 'REGIST BANK' [+] and [-] buttons simultaneously to call up the Registration Bank Selection Display, but this time just find the 'trevor2' bank in the list and press the button next to it. The bank will be loaded and you should see that only the four buttons that you saved data in are lit. If you press one of them, you should get the style etc. that you saved in it.


I hope that you can complete the above and see how to save registration banks and load them as required. Although instruction 4) means that you start off with a truly empty bank, it is not necessary to do this. You can simply memorise new setups to buttons containing an data from an existing bank, as long as you remember to give the bank a new name when you save it. Some people like to start with an empty bank because having the buttons unlit can help remind you where you have got to.

Please have a go and let us know how you get on.

Regards

Ian
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 20-05-2013, 06:40 AM

I am away from home for a couple of days, but I really appreciate the help I have been getting. I am very excited about getting back to my PSR 750 and trying out Tyrosorus's suggestions. I think the PSR 750 is a marvellous machine. But then, I said that about the PSR 630 and now I come to think about it, so was the PSR 270 . I marvel daily about how Yamaha key boards have improved over the years. Trevor.
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Default Re: Registration Bank PSR 750 - 22-05-2013, 12:16 PM

I am back home. I've followed instructions carefully. Still no success. The following sign comes up every time I think I have successfully installed a new Folder. "Current Registration Bank changed. Save Changes?
I am then given the choice of "Yes " or" "No." It doesn't seem to matter if I choose " yes"or "no". But I am obliged to choose one of them, otherwise I cannot proceed to do anything.
Also I'm not sure if I am supposed to switch the PSR 750 off at the power point on the wall as well as the power off button on the PSR750 when I am in the process of creating new Folders. Hoping for help ,yet again! Trevor
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